Meeting with Polderland 13.11.2007


  • Peter Beinema
  • Sjur Moshagen


  • Since last time
  • Possible issues
  • Next meeting
  • Todo items for the next meeting

Since last time


  • inDesign spellers work except for custom dictionaries (FN)
    • some work left, delayed till after BOE fix (multipart compounds)
  • MS bug (misspell change + add)to be fixed for Sami too (FN)
    • Fixed (by PB)
  • PB restarted work on Win installer/extractor following work on cmd line hyph
    • Digging
  • WA is working on installer bugs
    • Currently Ill, expected back on thursday.
    • Intermediate results: some of the bugs can not be changed by us
  • FN is working on hyphenator bugs
    • Fixed, testing, delivery probably today
  • PB will continue with compound bugs following win installer/extractor
    • Working on that
  • PLX format: BOE solution approved as replacement for LR (FN, week 46).
    • work estimate: work is re-started, completion expected next week
  • Speller behaviour: only suggests if errors are limited to 1 part of compound.
    • undesired (or should be user setting),
      • will be changed in future drop


  • Fixed a hyphenation bug, but the fix caused a serious circularity bug in the Xerox code, with exploded PLX files as a result, thus no new spellers the last week
    • the circularity bug was fixed minutes ago, expect new spellers/hyphenators tomorrow
  • still more PLX conversion fixes
  • finished hunspell part of test bench
  • worked on test bench, for both hyphenation and paradigm testing - not yet finished
  • linguistic work on North Sámi finished, Lule Sámi close to finish (barring bug fixes and further lexicalisation)

Bug status


Div Pld Description
528 xxx Acro words get upper-case case endings
546 xxx Other bad hyphenation, different hyphenation in manual and auto. => the difference is caused by Word, and not PLD code

To be solved in next drop

Div Pld Description
473 452 Windows installer does not autostart after download
516 4?? vista installation from zip fails
545 xxx Bad hyphenation in compounds - fence post errors? There seems to be an error in the Polderland code => fixed, being tested

Under investigation by Polderland

Div Pld Description
461 448 Spelling errors with editing distance 1 from lexicalised words do not get correct suggestions => explanation not good enough, investigate more samples *** still investigating, low priority
522 xxx Strange compounding fenomena
524 xxx Multi-part compounds not always accepted
554 xxx Uninstallation under Windows Vista fails
557 xxx Missing suggestion when multiple errors across compound boundary
561 xxx Installer language choice doesn't work when upgrading
562 xxx Win upgrade does not upgrade
563 xxx Dutch text in installer upgrade dialog
564 xxx Win installer asking for non-existing disk
565 xxx Clicking 'Back' in installer doesn't word as expected
568 xxx Speller accepts X-flagged forms without I flag, also hyphenated words not in lexicon

Priority list

  1. hyphenation bug fix (545 and 546)
  2. multipart compounding fix
  3. Windows installer fixes
  4. other bug fixes
  5. MS-reported speller fix (not Sami-specific)
  6. indesign speller


MS Windows icon

Polderland does not use it, just plain text.


Lingsoft spellers are much faster than the Polderland ones, although LS also allows free compounding. Also the Windows version is slow on suggestions for long words.


  • November 6: Hyphenator command line tool
  • November 7: Hyphenation bug fix
  • November 14: multipart compound fix (pending positive decision)
  • November 14: other bug fixes
  • November 15: Divvun code freeze
  • November 20: Indesign speller
  • December 11-13: public release (one of those days)

Next meeting

Next week (20.11.) at 09.30 Dutch/Norwegian time.


  • PLD pass information on self-extracting ziptool with autostart option + instructions on how to use it (not in working order yet) - pending
  • PLD provide information on InDesign language grouping
  • PLD preferred order of results: see above
  • PLD bug fixes with deliveries (see above)
  • PLD look into the speed issue once again