Meeting with Polderland 1.4.2009


  • Peter Beinema
  • Sjur Moshagen


  • Since last time
  • Bug status
  • Priority list
  • Next meeting

Since last time


  • command line tools for Mac: South Sami (new), North/Lule (update) dropped
  • InDesign CS3 proofing tools for Mac dropped (s: new, n+l: update)
  • MS Word 2004 + 2008 proofing tools for Mac Dropped (s: new, n+l: update)
  • working on issues with NSIS installer ("publishing components" in installshield does some weird things to the registry, trying to repro in NSIS).
    • Trying to create a minimal proofing tools installer for 1 language first
    • Then determine which spellers/hyphenators grouped together
      • languages (EN / NB / SV / FI / SE-SME / SMJ / SMA)
      • screens
      • texts (recycle InstallShield texts)
    • so that you can shoot it to pieces and propose something different.
  • bugs: analysis complete. Will update bug tracking system. Couple of non-issues, 1 bug found & repaired, some requests for examples
  • Adobe contacted on CS4, waiting for reply


  • M&S - waiting for a response from Polderland
  • South Sámi offer: answer received regarding formalities, contract should be ready for signature shortly
  • unplanned travel to a South Sámi conference in Trondheim
  • formalities related to the continuation of the Divvun project after the project is over: there is a lot of work right now to get a permanent organisation in place, with full backing from the Sámi political leadership
  • we got a new project covering three Uralic languages in Northwestern Russia (Barents region) mentioned in the Norwegian Governments programme for the North Region. The project will hopefully start next year, and cover Kildin Sámi, Nenets and Komi

Bug status


Nothing new since last time.

To be solved/investigated by Divvun

Div Pld Description
621 xxx other hyphenator bugs. PB: not as much incorrect as well as weird-looking.
630 xxx Word (prefix) with hyphen is rejected - and suggested
652 xxx UPPERCASE-typos only get acronym-suggestions: VARI -> no sugg, vARI -> VÁRI as sugg; consequence of the sugg. mechanism, unresolvable
581 xxx consonant doubling => actual problem is suggestions with hyphens (split compound type); these can be blocked as suggestions, and thus be removed (they would still be recognised, though)
670 xxx REGRESSION: hard hyphen replaced with soft, see latest test results - since this was fixed earlier, and the hyphenation binary has not changed since then, we should investigate this first to see if we produce illegal PLX entries.

Under investigation by Polderland

Div Pld Description
581 xxx consonant doubling
595 xxx problem with prefix containing hyphens
603 xxx suffix is accepted in the middle of a word
613 xxx speller does not accept 'Ga' tagged word as 2nd part
670 xxx Hard hyphen replaced by soft hyphen. Regression? Check for v. 1.1
679 xxx Discretionary/soft hyphen not respected - repaired, repaired code to be dropped

Priority list

  1. installers for InDesign (CS3 Mac + Win)
  2. bug reports
  3. CS4 debug SDK version => CS4 version
  4. nullsoft installer
  5. South Sami
    1. done for Mac

Next meeting

Next meeting (Tue 21.4.) at 10.00 Dutch/Norwegian time.