Meeting with Polderland 6.2.2007


  • Peter Beinema
  • Sjur Moshagen


  • Since last time
  • Possible issues
  • Next meeting
  • Todo items for the next meeting

Since last time


  • did poll technical contacts, STILL no answer yet
  • mklex: 2 versions: 1 for North, 1 for Lule
  • investigated proper noun/common noun prefixing problem:
    • solution sent. Additional info: works with prefix nouns only, not with adjectives. Can "Davvi-" be labelled as noun? ==> linguistically doubtful/incorrect, but workable
  • investigated genitive prefix problem
    • solution proposed: word class G (Ga, Gp, Gn). acceptable? Yes
  • preparing drop:
    • group 1
      • 1 mklex for North Sami
      • 1 mklex for Lule Sami
      • lexicon test tools
      • mklex preparation script ('-' ==> '--', '^' ==> '-', '#' ==> '-')
    • group 2
      • N + L Sami spelling checkers + N Sami hyphenator for Mac MS Office 2004
      • installer scripts for Mac
    • group 3
      • N + L Sami spelling checkers + N Sami hyphenator for Windows MS Office 2003
      • installer scripts for Windows
    • documentation
  • translation of Windows installer texts received, will be integrated


  • installer translations sent
  • Lule Sámi PLX lexicon conversion working - it is being made right now, but it takes some time

Possible issues

Previous issues:

  • prefixing of proper nouns
  • compounds using genitives

Now resolved.

Disguise languages in Mac beta

For the public beta for MS Office / Mac, the spellers will have to disguise themselves as something else, since the language code problem isn't solved. The suggestions are:

  • North Sámi: Catalan
  • Lule Sámi: Basque

Peter will check whether this is possible.

The installer should put away the replaced tools (if they exists) in a graceful way, such that they can be easily reinstalled.

Next meeting

Next Tuesday (13.2.) at the usual time.


  • ( PLD) check whether replacing lexicon on Mac requires change to resource fork in speller shared library
  • send prefix with spelling error penalties (head of fon.rule file)
  • check: use Catalan and Basque as language codes for North and Lule S.?
  • check: installer on Mac should be able to:
    • move existing proofing tools out of the way (into a zip archive?)
    • restore "original" proofing tools on deinstallation
  • check if Sami-codes are included in Office 2008 / Mac (PLD)
  • beta drop for all deliverables (except Indesign Hyphenator, in week 6 instead)
    • spellers for Windows + installers
    • N.Sami hyphenator for windows + installer
    • spellers for Mac + installers
    • N. Sami hyphenator for Mac
    • Mklex + hyphenation script
  • make PLX data set for Lule Sámi (Tomi and Børre)
  • get language codes to work with Mac Office 2004 (and check Mac Office 2008) (Polderland)
  • try to find proper compiler version for Adobe Indesign (old version will probably do) (Polderland)